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hodali

Germany
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Posted - 04 Jul 2012 :  17:02:27  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use Easy-PC 15.0.7. How can I generate g-code for a pick and place machine from Easy-PC?

Edited by - hodali on 05 Jul 2012 16:59:23

hodali

Germany
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  09:34:00  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Number one's answer: There is no inbuilt provision for directly generating pick-and-place G-code data. It is possible that you may be able to use the ‘user report’ feature of the Reports dialog, perhaps using the existing Pick And Place output as a starting point, to generate something that produces the basic data that you need. However, I suspect it is not going to be sophisticated enough to create full G-code data, you may need to do something like load the file into Excel and do some Basic programming to create the final output.

Does anyone know a converter which can convert the component positions report to g-code ?

Edited by - hodali on 05 Jul 2012 09:57:30
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Iain Wilkie

United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  12:37:59  Show Profile  Visit Iain Wilkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I simply supply them a component position file and they generate their pick and place from that no problem ...

Iain
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hodali

Germany
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Posted - 05 Jul 2012 :  12:52:21  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am going to buy a pick and place machine. The software is EMC2 (Linux) and it is free of charge. EMC2 needs g-code data to control the axis. The question is how to generate the g-code data from the component positions report. G-code is an industry standard used for machines. I think it is not trivial to write a converter. G-code data have a lot of implemented commands while the Easy-PC component positions report is only a list of components with their positions and orientations.

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I simply supply them a component position file and they generate their pick and place from that no problem ...

Iain



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Benno

Netherlands
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Posted - 11 Jul 2012 :  17:24:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you sure the software you want to use is for a pick and place machine?

Afaik this kind of software (http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode.html) is for controlling CNC machines, like milling and drilling.

What software is provided with your pick and place machine?

Can you tell us what machine you are planning to buy?

The company that assembles for me has an essemtec pick and place machine and they have a windows software to create the productionfiles. They import placement files and edit that, since everybody creates his symbols different.
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hodali

Germany
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Posted - 12 Jul 2012 :  18:44:58  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The software EMC was originally made for milling and CNC machines. But you can modify a CNC machine and use it to pick and place components. There are a lot of cheap cnc machines on ebay (from Hong Kong). Pick and place machines and cnc machines use the same technolgy. Cnc machines are cheaper because they are widely used.

For example Redfrog is a project (http://buildyourcnc.com/PickandPlaceMachineTheredFrog.aspx ) and it is still under development. The software used for Redfrog is EMC2. Redfrog can be used for prototyping. For production I would replace the step motors with servo motors and the wooden parts with aluminium parts. On ebay you can get a cnc machine for less than 1000 USD and all parts made from aluminium. I have to mention that all maschines don't have a image recognition system.


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Originally posted by Benno

Are you sure the software you want to use is for a pick and place machine?

Afaik this kind of software (http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode.html) is for controlling CNC machines, like milling and drilling.

What software is provided with your pick and place machine?

Can you tell us what machine you are planning to buy?

The company that assembles for me has an essemtec pick and place machine and they have a windows software to create the productionfiles. They import placement files and edit that, since everybody creates his symbols different.


Edited by - hodali on 12 Jul 2012 19:54:03
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Benno

Netherlands
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Posted - 13 Jul 2012 :  00:11:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

based on your message I have been googling too.

If you want to build yourself, I have seen people that use a USB microscope as a camera. Conrad is a supplier of these microscopes and probably a lot of others too.

For prototyping I am looking at this small scale CNC http://www.mydiycnc.com/ they have a fully builld unit for under $1000. I don't expect it to be production usable, but for prototyping it could be a solution for a lot of manual labour.

If you are also looking for a soldering oven, there is the obvious toaster oven. But that has a lot of issues and is not very reliable.

There are some DIY projects on making a vapour phase oven. Here are some links:
http://www.ibrtses.com/g/dampfphasenloeten.html
http://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/reflow-loeten-selbstgemacht#new

Vapour phase soldering will give you much better results if you make small batches with different components, since it's "only" variable is the paste you use.

I would be happy if you can inform us on the progress with your project.

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