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AndyB
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
 Posted - 01 Aug 2014 : 19:23:35
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Anybody know where the copper pour settings are on Version 18.
Seems like they have been taken off the normal copper pour menu.
I want to remove spokes on this copper pour.
Dont understand why this has been removed. |
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Iain Wilkie
United Kingdom
1022 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2014 : 19:31:21
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Andy,
It's all changed to make it more powerful. There are now settings in the spacings tab ... Read the V18 supplement, it's all explained there.
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John Baraclough
United Kingdom
129 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2014 : 17:54:56
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I'm waiting until the bugs are fixed before upgrading to V18, but will ask anyway.
Does this new copper pour feature mean that each copper pour can have it's own settings? In V17, every time a pour is poured it inherits the settings from the previous pour, so you have to be careful if you have different clearances or some pours with spokes and some without. I suggested an enhancement where each copper pour should remember it's individual settings rather than inherit from the previous one but don't know if it has been implemented.
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edrees
United Kingdom
799 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 09:10:23
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I don't think so John.
The pour settings are under a "Rules" tab in design Tech., and they appear to be applicable to all layers/pours. The rules can obviously be changed in between pouring different areas.
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Iain Wilkie
United Kingdom
1022 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 09:20:08
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John, in v17 you can have different settings on each copper pour. You can also have different spacings on each layer using the "net match" feature.
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Edited by - Iain Wilkie on 04 Aug 2014 09:39:23 |
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AndyB
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 11:32:00
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Thanks Iain,
Looks like it's in the Rules section.
Is there a way to add a keep out zone for the pour?
At present I'm adding an extra board area which gets deleted. |
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edrees
United Kingdom
799 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 11:48:13
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Andy you can add a pour area area, then under its properties set it as a keepout area, then pour it. A subsequent pour area which may include this area will then avoid flooding the first pour (keepout) area.
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AndyB
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 17:41:34
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Thanks edrees thats great.
Tested on a finished pcb.
Did cause a problem though.
It changed some pads back to "default connection" when they had been set to "Not isolated".
Guessing this is a bug.
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edrees
United Kingdom
799 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 17:57:34
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Andy , double check the (new) Powerplane rules in Design Tech.
You have to specify/override the "defaults" there. |
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AndyB
United Kingdom
209 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2014 : 22:07:26
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Yep found them. Thanks.
Also noticed if right clicking copper pour area you can set this and name the copper pour area.
Looks good.
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Scazon
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 01 Sep 2014 : 20:50:18
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There seems to be something seriously unwell about the new copper pour. I frequently use copper pour to create the ground connections to components via spokes- I've been doing this for many years with EPC without any bother. But now, whatever the settings, I get messages like this:
"IC2.1 at 38.712,28.400 has too few spokes (can fit 1, requires 2)"
But most of the time - but not in every case- it creates no spokes at all if it can't create all of them.
I'm going to have to reinstall V17 if I can't find a fix (or the well- hidden right way of doing it) as I've got designs with dozens of ground connections that I don't want to have to make manually. |
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Iain Wilkie
United Kingdom
1022 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2014 : 08:24:53
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If you think this is a bug, report it direct to Numberone rather than on the forum.
That way things will get looked at and fixed quicker if there is a problem.
Iain
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rmorris
United Kingdom
29 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2015 : 13:43:11
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Has there been any progress on this. I'm getting a similar thing though on one pad only as far as I can see.
Now at V18.0.4 Reports 1 spoke only - same design under V13 had two spokes with same design rules - and no spoke is implemented.
Is this a bug or is it as intended ?
Previous spoke did cause a spacing error so I can see that the rule checking might have been intended there and omitting any spoke would flag up a Net Connection error which might be as intended.
However, it's disconcerting to get different results with the same design so it would be good to know before committing to a pcb run.
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Scazon
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2015 : 15:57:34
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Not much hope here. I reported it as a bug, as Ian so tartly requested, and after a month's silence all I got was that they couldn't reproduce it. Well, there's another example, so I'm not dreaming it up. V18 has been removed and I'm still using V17.
One gets the impresion that the new system is too clever by half. |
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Iain Wilkie
United Kingdom
1022 Posts |
Posted - 06 Feb 2015 : 20:39:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Scazon
Not much hope here. I reported it as a bug, as Ian so tartly requested,
I do take exception to that comment. It was in my opinion a valid comment and the normal procedure to follow if a bug is suspected. There is no need for rudeness.
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Scazon
United Kingdom
68 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jun 2015 : 20:25:22
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| With V19 looming, I thought it time to get to the bottom of this problem. No matter what I tried, it insisted that my pour required a minimum of 2 spokes. Observing that V17 didn't have a minimum spokes setting, I guessed that it supplied this when the file was converted. So I unpoured the copper, and deleted the pour areas, then created new ones. Now the pour setting follows the Rules setting. There! Or almost, it defaults to putting spokes on my dozens of stitching vias, and takes an age to fill. Back to the Rules, and change the vias setting. All now works as before. |
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Copper pour setting V18